Epilepsy Talk

Natural Herbal Remedies for Epilepsy | July 2, 2017

Long before Dilantin and Phenobarbital, there was epilepsy. And herbal remedies.

Of course, these herbal epilepsy remedies are NOT substitutes to anti-seizure medications, but are more like a supplementary support. Most of them work by preventing a seizure and other symptoms of epilepsy. (NYU Langone Medical Center estimates that 20 percent of people taking prescription drugs also use herbs.)

Some may sound weird and others familiar. But hey, how can you argue with success?

Ash Gourd:

For some reason, this particular type of gourd is believed to have healing powers for those who suffer from seizures. Therefore using ash gourd as a home remedy for epilepsy can help to relieve the symptoms and prevent seizures.

Eating the gourd or drinking the juice of it can help, but turning to a supplement featuring this type of gourd can provide the best relief and is highly recommended as a natural cure.

Bacopa Leaf:

Used for centuries in Ayurvedic medicine, the Bacopa leaf, or Brahmi, is an effective home remedy for epilepsy. It is a powerful nerve health promoter and is known to enhance memory, concentration as well as treat epilepsy. It enhances nerve health and protects the neurons against damage, keeping seizures at bay.

Black Cohosh:

Highly recommended in numerous respected publications. Like many of the herbs already mentioned, it’s considered a sedative and antispasmodic and has been extensively used for epilepsy.

Blue Vervain:

Worth mentioning here after reading old American herb doctors tales of their successes with stubborn cases of epilepsy. Blue Vervain is another wonderful herb used by many cultures all over the world. It is an American Indian remedy for several diseases including nervous afflictions.


Packed with several medicinal properties, it can be used as an effective remedy to reduce the episodes of seizures, as it helps stimulate your brain and strengthen the nerves. Take few fresh basil leaves and extract juice from them.

Castor Oil:

A natural emollient that penetrates the surface layers of the skin, making it softer and more supple. The effects of externally applied castor oil can be enhanced through the use of a “castor oil pack” — a piece of wool flannel saturated with the oil and applied to the body. Use of a pack allows the greatest penetration in a specific area of the body. The application of heat further increases this penetration, allowing the oil to better impart its qualities to the body.

Chamomile Tea:

Known for its antioxidant and cleansing properties, chamomile tea can also abate the symptoms of epilepsy. It’s a natural soothing agent and works by calming the nerves. If you feel you have a seizure coming, you should definitely try this remedy. Sipping a strong chamomile tea can be of great help. Boil some water and add a teabag of chamomile tea. Allow it to steep for at least 15 minutes, making sure that the tea is very strong. Sipping it will immediately soothe your on-edge nerves.

Coconut Water:

Ever experience that totally refreshed and cool feeling after drinking coconut water on a sweltering day? That’s because coconut water is a magic potion loaded with vital minerals, electrolytes, and water. These three things promote better neuron health and keeps the neurological system cranked up, ensuring proper functioning of the brain.


Most easily found in every home, garlic is full of medicinal benefits. To use it as a home remedy for epilepsy, take equal quantities of water and milk. To this, add 3-4 crushed cloves of garlic. Boil the mixture well and drink a glass of this mixture everyday. The water and milk keep your body hydrated and replenished with minerals, while the garlic has many properties for improving neurological health.

Epsom Salt:

Magnesium sulfate, as it is also known as, has a wonderful effect on nerve health. This is a naturally found salt that is rich in magnesium and sulfur, which are both responsible for better absorption of calcium by the body. The magnesium also helps by maintaining proper nerve functioning, reducing stress, and eliminating toxins. Simply taking one tablespoon of Epsom salt every day with a glass of water can prove beneficial for epilepsy. Some businesses focus on selling entirely pure “food grade” Epsom salt, which contains magnesium sulphate. Whether there’s truth to these claims is unproven. The best amount to take is about a tsp. every morning, should you decide to use Epsom salt.

Essential Oils:

Essential oils are natural soothing and calming agents. Oils of lavender, ylang ylang, and chamomile can be used daily to keep up nerve health and to reduce anxiety and stress related to epilepsy.

False Pepper:

False pepper is a vine with tiny flowers that are yellow-green in color, and  are typically found throughout India. Alternative medicine makes use of the bark, leaves and fresh fruit to handle a variety of problems. These problems include parasites, rheumatism, stomach difficulties, skin diseases, tumors, psychological problems, and convulsions. The active component in the plant is embelin, and it has anti-fertility, anti-inflammatory, anti-tumor and anti-oxidant properties. Embelin is a member of a chemical class called benzoquinone, and derivatives of quinone have anticonvulsant properties.


The essential oil of choice for any kind of brain disorder. Frankincense has a molecular makeup that includes sesquiterpenes, derived from plants, that is able to cross the blood/brain barrier. These sesquiterpenes stimulate the limbic system of the brain and other glands within the brain, promoting memory and releasing emotions. Frankincense slows down and deepens the breath. The therapeutic properties of Frankincense oil are antiseptic, digestive, diuretic, and sedative.

Indian Gooseberry:

Amla, is a wonderful fruit, whose benefits never ceases to surprise. Not only is it the richest source of Vitamin C, it also has loads of antioxidants and minerals. One glass of amla juice taken on an empty stomach can help relieve the symptoms of epilepsy and prevent seizures.


Once again, licorice or Mulethi, proves that it is much more than what we know it to be. Grind some licorice and add it to a tablespoon of honey. Take this homemade medicine every day to find relief from epilepsy and its symptoms. CAUTION: Do not consume licorice during pregnancy for any reason as it may cause premature labor!


Lobelia is an effective herb that was historically used in the treatment of epilepsy. It has anti-spasmotic action that helps in abating seizures.


This is a historic way of treating epilepsy since this serves as a nerve tonic and sedative. The tonic is extracted by boiling the herb in hot water. Daily consumption is effective in treating epilepsy.

Omega-3 Fatty Acids:

These are a group of essential acids that promote overall good health. These fatty acids reduce cholesterol and artery blockages, which in turn reduces the effects of ageing and improve nerve and brain health. Foods rich in omega-3 fatty acids are fish and nuts. Make sure you include these in your diet on a regular basis to prevent seizures. These foods are also rich in vital minerals and nutrients that are important for healthy nerves and brain functioning.


For treating epilepsy, extract the juice of 2-3 onions and mix it well in water. Drink a glass of this mixture daily for at least 2 months and you will find great relief from your symptoms.


Traditionally, it has been used for delirium tremens, St. Vitus’ dance, convulsions, seizures, hysterical states, lockjaw, tremors and epilepsy.

Sesame Oil:

A massage of this lesser known oil can help to immediately soothe the symptoms of epilepsy. Take a little warm sesame oil and massage it well onto the soles of the feet, temples and palms. This works well if done at bedtime after which you can get a good dose of calm sleep.


Turmeric and its chemical compounds have been studied for its anticonvulsant benefits in treating epilepsy and other conditions of our central nervous system such as mood disorders, bipolar disorders, pain, tremors, schizophrenia and even neurodegenerative diseases.

Quite a bit of research points toward the fact that turmeric is good for brain health. Additionally its bioactive constituents also demonstrate anti-epileptic and anti-seizure effect.


Currently one of the most popular orthodox antispasmodic medications in Russia and Germany according to Daniel Mowrey author of Herbal Tonic Therapies. It’s anticonvulsant action has been useful in treating epilepsy. Valerian was used in the First World War to prevent shell shock in front-line troops. Valerian is classified as a tonic herb. It can regulate and balance opposite extremes. Recent research has shown it to be a sedative but more research has reported it can also stimulate in a way as to improve coordination, increase concentration and energy. This tonic nature of Valerian allows it to depress or stimulate where necessary depending on the current needs of the nervous system. Another way Valerian has been characterized by clinical studies is that it has neurotropic effects directly on higher centers of the central nervous system. One of the most remarkable aspects of Valerian is the almost total lack of toxicity, even with long-term use.

Violet Tree:

The violet tree is a little tree with fragrant purple flowers indigenous to the more tropical parts of Africa. Alternative medicine practitioners use the roots to handle a variety of physical and psychological problems such as discomfort, irritation, nervousness, headache and epilepsy. Research has  compared the extract of the root of the violet tree to phenobarbitone, which is an anti-convulsant drug. This research confirmed the conventional usage of the violet tree as a natural treatment for epilepsy. More studies are necessary to support these results.

Herbs you should not take according to www.epilepy.com








Note: Precautions with herbs. Evening Primrose Oil and Borage can lower your seizure threshold. Sage and Hyssop can be pro-convulsant. Some herbs decrease the level of anticonvulsants in your body. Watch out for toxins and pesticides in unregulated herbs. And most herbs should be avoided by pregnant women.


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  1. Does anyone have experience with any these in particular? There are so many that I don’t know where to start. Thanks!

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    Comment by New to Seizures — July 2, 2017 @ 4:58 PM

  2. For at least 30 years, I have been using LOBELIA. I never used it as a drug would be used in that time. I changed that last month as on June 1st I decided to take 20 drops in the AM & PM 12 hours apart, give or take. When I get the seizure activity now & I need to take more of it at the time, it seemed to work better at that time, as it did work to stop GRAND MALS & other activity that did not go into a GRAND MAL Seizure. Sadly though it is not 100% perfect in stopping seizures, but for the past 32 days it really hasn’t been put to that test but for 1 time & it is 1 for 1. CABBAGE & BELL PEPPERS now are OFF my food list to eat. All the supply now of foods are getting to become TOXIC & CONTAMINATED due to THE DARK ACT / LAW passed last year, as I think the LOBELIA will maybe be more of an advantage to take to stop all possible threats to the chemical balances of my brain, in becoming to be a more stable brain where the chemical balances have been out of wack for 56 + years. Who knows as maybe I should have always taken this lobelia this way for the 30 years I have been using it. No side effects it creates UNLESS you use too much & maybe vomit from that. Do not believe all these PRO PHARMA PEOPLE who love to report how bad & toxic lobelia is. The AMISH where I had lived in PA, taught my mother about lobelia & none of them ever died from it.

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    Comment by C D — July 2, 2017 @ 5:25 PM

    • What great news, C D. Thanks for all the info about Lobelia.

      By the way, where did you live in PA? I live 1/2 way between Philadelphia and Lancaster!


      Comment by Phylis Feiner Johnson — July 2, 2017 @ 5:29 PM

      • East of Lancaster county, in Chester county, between Phila & Baltimore Md. Not far from Rt 1. Some Amish lives out in that area too. LOBELIA helped me again last night, when I knew I was feeling seizure coming on, after taking it before I went to bed. While trying to go off to sleep,that it can help do as well,I started to feel that sensation begin in my stomach, then a few minutes later the head started to feel like something was getting ready to happen, Once I felt the odd stomach feeling I reached for the Lobelia, & I used 2/3rds of a dropperful, and after 5 to 10 minutes ALL WAS GONE. Again I PRAISED GOD !! and thanked him for keeping that seizure away & for the LOBELIA. Still after over 56 years, all of this has to stop forever sometime. There’s more to life than to worry when the next time something is going to happen, no matter what you do to try to prevent any seizure event to take place to begin with. I KNOW there was NO MSG foods or alike to had been eaten that this happened `1 week later, after learning that of all foods CABBAGE can make seizure activity & seizures happen as well. Like last night I did the same thing last week & NO seizure happened. ALWAYS KNOW 1st what ALL FERMENTED FOODS can do to all amino acids in the brain, Every neurologist will more than likely tell you that fermented foods are good to eat. WRONG,,, I don’t think so. CABBAGE & SAUERKRAUT seems to top that list, even as we did eat ham & sauerkraut on NEW YEARS DAY in PA when we lived there. Never seemed to bother me then so much as it will today. AED’s chemicals I believe are the reasons I have the trouble with seizures like I do today. NOBODY will ever agree with me on that, as these doctors & the drugs are looked at as saints which they are not. I’m happy I can help about the LOBELIA. It’s been a brain saver for me, but not 100% of the time. They key is as I started in JUNE AM & PM small doses & the drugs are not effected by it, especially if the drugs do not help stop seizures to begin with.

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        Comment by C D — July 5, 2017 @ 10:52 AM

      • Wow, C D! We’re almost neighbors. I live in West Chester, between Philadelphia and Delaware. You’re less than an hour away. Do you still live there?

        Cabbage? Now, that’s an eye-opener. Right. I forgot about the fermentation.


        Comment by Phylis Feiner Johnson — July 5, 2017 @ 12:10 PM

  3. You forgot the best herb, Marijuana.

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    Comment by Zolt — July 2, 2017 @ 5:30 PM

    • Smart thinking, Zolt!


      Comment by Phylis Feiner Johnson — July 2, 2017 @ 5:40 PM

    • Good! Definitely, marijuana is nerve blocker!

      Liked by 1 person

      Comment by Joy Stewart — July 3, 2017 @ 10:55 AM

      • My neurologist said to stay away from canabus oil because it is loosely regulated. What say you?


        Comment by Curtis McMurtrey — July 24, 2017 @ 8:27 PM

      • I remain neutral. Sorry.

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        Comment by Phylis Feiner Johnson — July 24, 2017 @ 8:28 PM

      • I tried CBD oil about a week ago, after about using it for 5 days, I had a seizure. 😦 It may work on some types of seizures, but not mine, JME.


        Comment by Teresa Stevenson — June 17, 2019 @ 8:41 PM

      • There are so many types and combinations of CBD that, at the very best, it’s difficult to guess which is the right one for you.

        And as you said; What works for one doesn’t necessarily work for all.

        I’m sorry it didn’t work out for you Teresa.


        Comment by Phylis Feiner Johnson — June 17, 2019 @ 8:58 PM

  4. Forgot to say IF you try the herb lobelia, like the AED’s start out slow, to see what your brain can handle. Lobelia is to be considered THE THINKING HERB, as it seems to work best where it is needed the most. So yeah,, that was why I decided to take it daily. No drug I took in over 56 years was ever given that ”the thinking drug” name.


    Comment by C D — July 2, 2017 @ 5:40 PM

  5. I would like to second the comment by Zolt about the medicinal uses of cannabis. I have been able to cut back my pharmaceutical meds by 1/2 since supplementing with edible cannabis products (I don’t like smoking anything).

    Phyllis, how about dedicating an entire post one of these days to cannabis? There is a lot of new info out there about it and also a lot of new products available such as infused chocolates and sub-lingual tinctures for those who don’t like the idea of smoking in general.

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    Comment by paleobird — July 2, 2017 @ 7:20 PM

  6. You’ve got a good point there. But frankly, I wouldn’t know where to begin.

    I did write an article eons ago:

    Medical Marijuana — It’s Here To Stay



    Comment by Phylis Feiner Johnson — July 2, 2017 @ 7:25 PM

  7. Ah, good article. I must have missed that one. Maybe just an update to that given that since 2013, several more states have seen the light about this. Then of course we have Jefferson Beauregard Sessions in the US Atty General’s office opining that, “Good people don’t use marijuana”. Sanctimonious little Keebler Elf. So, legally things are still a little murky but I think the USAG is on the wrong side of history.

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    Comment by paleobird — July 2, 2017 @ 7:41 PM

    • Yes, there would have to be a lot of current politics involved. It’s not just a matter of 29 states (and Washington, DC) approving marijuana, it’s the whole political climate.

      Things have changed dramatically since the days of Obama’s presidency. 😦

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      Comment by Phylis Feiner Johnson — July 2, 2017 @ 10:56 PM

  8. Re: the other herbs listed above. I have been taking Bacopa for quite a while now and I really think it does help. My seizures are nocturnal and the Bacopa seems to help me sleep.

    I am also a big fan of all things from the coconut. Coconut water is Mother Nature’s own electrolyte supplement drink, better than any sugar and chemical laden “sports drink”. I also cook with coconut oil and flour and put coconut cream in my tea.

    I also take a fish oil supplement as well as turmeric (which should really have a place in your list).


    Comment by paleobird — July 2, 2017 @ 7:58 PM

  9. I would love to know all the bad things that can happen, when any person 21 years or older can take CBD oils or any other form of medical marijuana for epilepsy. If you have noticed these neurologists say it’s GREAT to use for infants and kids under 18 years old. That age of brain is not 100% grown or formed as a full grown brain. What will happen later after 25, 30, 40 or 56 years later, when the brain may be 100% fully developed BUT it may have after all those years, few major parts of the brain where the brain cells that are important to be normal are now DEAD, thanks to all AED’s taken 365 days a year for centuries, and the brain is defenseless against anything that can attack the immune system of the brain, when weaken or attacked will cause seizures, So the FDA calls MSG & ASPARTAME GNAS chemicals or SAFE to take & use, after the AED’s have done their damage to the brain. Really ? Tell all of that to my brain again. They do not live the REALITY that my brain has been abused by for over 56 years. So WILL CBD & medical marijuana make my brain heal & maybe with the help of LOBELIA to go with it, OR will it destroy my brain more than what it is already ?


    Comment by C D — July 5, 2017 @ 11:46 AM

    • I don’t think that Lobelia can do any harm C D. As you so helpfully pointed out.

      As for the marijuana, I can’t say. I have no personal experiences with it.


      Comment by Phylis Feiner Johnson — July 5, 2017 @ 12:04 PM

    • I am in my 30s and have tried CBD oil three times and had horrible seizures within two hours of each dose. It may be a miracle for some, but definitely not me. Then again, melatonin also induces seizures for me.

      Thanks to all for the help!


      Comment by New to Seizures — July 5, 2017 @ 6:26 PM

      • Well, glad if we could be of help.

        (C D is always there with an interesting point of view!)


        Comment by Phylis Feiner Johnson — July 5, 2017 @ 8:46 PM


    If you haven’t gone through seizures, you cannot understand the pain, the shame and above all, the fear. You are afraid of falling off; afraid of drowning in a pool, afraid of everything, because you cannot tell when the next attack will come, even what you love to do become a thing of fear. I went through all these fears, today! It has all become a PAST. I have been seizure free for 4 years now. Well Thanks to HILTON Herbal Anti-Seizure Medication which totally freed me from fears caused by seizures.

    I never believed epilepsy can be cured, not after thousands spent on buying all kinds of English medication recommended by Doctors I visited during mu dark times and harsh side effects I had while using these drugs. My seizure started when I was 12, I suffered grand mal for years until I met Dr. Mohan through his blog. I have being Seizures free for 4 years now. After reading through Dr. Mohan blog I contacted him, got HILTON and my seizures became a past for years. I am sharing this SEIZURE CURE through HILTON link to help people find help just like I did. http://www.seizurecure.blogspot.com


    Comment by Green — July 15, 2017 @ 11:13 AM

    • Thanks for the link. It may be helpful to many.


      Comment by Phylis Feiner Johnson — July 15, 2017 @ 11:46 AM

      • Phylis, have you done any research regarding the HILTON herbal anti-seizure medication or know anybody who has? I


        Comment by Lori Blank Miller — September 15, 2018 @ 1:26 PM

      • No, I’m sorry, I haven’t.

        Here’s a link to a blog spot:


        And you can found them sold on Amazon.


        Comment by Phylis Feiner Johnson — September 15, 2018 @ 1:49 PM

    • Can you share your mail ID to connect with you to understand more about this medicine?. We need for our loved one.


      Comment by Jey — November 8, 2017 @ 10:46 PM

  11. Phylis Feiner Johnson, I am not dismissing the critical role that medication can play in handling a condition such as epilepsy. That being said, however, I think some short-sightedness is on display from Doctors who rely solely on medication as treatment for a condition such as epilepsy. They may be the experts, but some things can be overlooked, even by them. What are your thoughts about the use of herbs medicinally?


    Comment by Jeffrey Liakos — July 24, 2017 @ 1:16 PM

  12. Phylis Feiner Johnson, I am not dismissing the benefits of medication for conditions such as Epilepsy. Nor am I dismissing the fact that Doctors have more knowledge about what works than their patients in many cases. Of course, I think it is possible to become too dependent on medication in some ways. You told me that you never got the migraine headaches. Those hurt like hell.


    Comment by Jeffrey Liakos — July 30, 2017 @ 3:13 PM

  13. Good article 🙂


    Comment by sipofwellness — August 19, 2017 @ 5:25 AM

  14. Phylis Feiner Johnson, I believe that herbal therapies can be effective in some regards. However, the opinions of medical doctors should be solicited so the patient is not faced with a situation that results in more harm than good in the pursuit of natural treatments for Epilepsy or other medical conditions. What are your thoughts? If you don’t mind my asking, what have you found that helps with your Epilepsy?


    Comment by Jeffrey Liakos — August 25, 2017 @ 3:29 PM

  15. Phylis Feiner Johnson, I am not one to go against the advice of a Doctor, however, some short-sightedness can be on display from people who solely practice Western medicine. What I mean is that prescription medication may not be the only way to go. Is it effective? Yes. Would there be anything wrong with it? Not at all. Of the listed herbs above, have you used any of them personally?


    Comment by Jeffrey Liakos — August 25, 2017 @ 3:53 PM


    Hi everyone, my name is Leen. I once shared a testimony of my cure from epilepsy. I actually had a lot of people who wrote and asked if it was true. Yes it is! I would not waste my precious time to come on the internet just to say what wasn’t true. I understand most of you have doubts; I once had it too, in fact I was so afraid, to get HILTON, because I felt it won’t probably work having taken all “researched” Conventional medicines for years. Doctor Mohan herbal medicine proved my doubts WRONG.

    Overtime, I have come to realize that seizure is not actually the big problem, the fear of finding alternative cure is. We are afraid of what the Doctor told us, “NEVER TO MISS A DOSE”, never to go out and find a cure, we should live a pity party life, always watch time so we can stick to our drugs, they can’t do anything to cure us, but we have to keep suppressing it with medications whose side effects are worse than their solutions. I believe freedom comes the day we begin to realize that we have been in the chains of fear, in chains of Doctors expert opinion, while we suffer shame, criticism, segregation and discriminations from those who do not know what it feels like to deal with seizure. Here I am today, being thankful that I broke all rules of fears, went overboard and finally got my desired cure. For 3 years now, I can sit and smile and say I overcame seizure! I won the war and battle my tonic-clonic had totally become a past.

    I am sharing this testimony again because I want others to find help just like I did. I knew what it was like, after spending money getting medications, and dealing with keppra and Lamictal side effects. To those who wrote that they contacted Doctor Mohan, and their seizure ceased totally after using HILTON, I will congratulate you all for having the courage to try. If you are still in doubt, I will advice you take a step and help yourself, help your child, or your spouse do not let their dreams die when HILTON herbal medicines can do wonder for them. To know more about HILTON which I used and got a permanent cure, visit Dr. Mohan blog via http://www.seizurecure.blogspot.com


    Comment by Leen — January 18, 2018 @ 8:57 PM

  17. I fail to see the logic behind the skepticsm of the potential benefits of herbs used medicinally. Quite honestly, the opinion of an herbalist should be sought or that of a Medical Doctor. Another option is doing online research and seeing about interactions between the herb and whatever medication you are taking.


    Comment by Jeffrey Liakos — January 19, 2018 @ 1:28 PM

  18. The issue is what the right question to ask would be.


    Comment by Jeffrey Liakos — January 19, 2018 @ 3:03 PM

  19. Very nice madam mixing of various herbal medicines in small proportions is also important

    Precautions to be taken by patients after undergoing treatment


    Comment by Syed yusuf — January 28, 2018 @ 10:36 PM

  20. Why are so many Western medical Doctors seemingly skeptical of natural treatments for medical conditions? If natural means lowering of the risks of liver damage due to specific medications or limited dosages of said medications, how is that a bad thing?


    Comment by Jeffrey Liakos — February 10, 2018 @ 12:51 PM

    • It isn’t. There’s no profit in it for BIG Pharma. 😦


      Comment by Phylis Feiner Johnson — February 10, 2018 @ 12:56 PM

    • I got off of Depakote after getting kidney stone, which I removed naturally, multiple cysts and enlarged liver. Now I’m on the old 1914 Phenobarbital after REFUSING to continue Depakote or get on Keppra and several other drugs. Phenobarbital is given to babies and is good for ME and U too. If you know of some natural remedies that will not give u a seizure that work, please let me know. Rita McDonald. rvmcdonald@ iCloud.com. 985-500-4665


      Comment by Rita McDonald — February 10, 2018 @ 2:05 PM

      • Hello Rita,
        I know you posted your comment a lot time ago, but wanted to ask if Phenobarbital prevents your seizures? I used to take it and Dilantin, but after the Dilantin caused horrible side effects and I asked the doctor to change my medication, they changed both. I had taken it for more than 20 years, they tried to put me on Keppra too, but I had a bad reaction. If I could take Phenobarbital, I would.


        Comment by Teresa Stevenson — June 17, 2019 @ 8:56 PM

  21. Phylis Feiner Johnson, what natural methods have you actively used to help your situation? What has your Neurologist recommended personally, if you don’t mind my asking?


    Comment by Jeffrey Liakos — February 10, 2018 @ 1:05 PM

    • Since my seizures are under control, I only see my neuro for a brief annual visit.

      What works best for me is deep breathing, relaxation techniques and visualization.

      Some Stress and Anxiety Solutions…



      Comment by Phylis Feiner Johnson — February 10, 2018 @ 1:38 PM

      • What can we use for a 12 year adhd boy? He is on epilim cr 400 mg twice a day. I need something natural to treat some side effects?


        Comment by Linda — August 17, 2019 @ 5:16 AM

      • Often times, a vitamin B Complex will help.

        Without a question, they are the star of all vitamins. In sufficient quantities, especially those that combine B6, B12, folic acid, thiamine and biotin, they are vital to the production of numerous brain chemicals.

        Like the neurotransmitters which serve as the chemical message bearers between your nervous system and brain.

        The most efficient way to make use of this “brain food,” is to take it in a B complex form, since this contains all the vitamins in the B group. And when combined, they work synergistically together.

        Take a single B-50 B complex tablet twice a day with food.

        Each dose should contain 50 micrograms of vitamin B12 and biotin, 400 micrograms of folic acid, and 50 milligrams each of all the other B vitamins.

        There are also other supplements that you might want to consider.

        Brain Food for Your Health… https://epilepsytalk.com/2017/07/28/brain-food-for-your-health/

        You also might try one of the anti-epilepsy diets. I find the Modified Atkins Diet to be most user-friendly.

        Three Anti-Seizure Diets That Could Change Your Life… https://epilepsytalk.com/2018/02/15/three-anti-seizure-diets-that-could-change-your-life/

        There is no one perfect drug, it’s like a crap shoot. And there is no magic bullet to stave off side-effects.

        But, I thought I might put these suggestions out to you as viable health tips to help counter the side-effects of the Epilim.


        Comment by Phylis Feiner Johnson — August 17, 2019 @ 9:05 AM

  22. Phylis Feiner Johnson, of all of the herbs that you listed in this post, have you ever used any of them personally? I am not trying to pry. Just curios.


    Comment by Jeffrey Liakos — February 11, 2018 @ 4:43 PM

  23. Phylis Feiner Johnson, have you ever utilized Valerian Root, Bacopa or Blue Vervain?


    Comment by Jeffrey Liakos — February 11, 2018 @ 9:17 PM

  24. I have not either. Do you know anybody with Epilepsy personally who has?


    Comment by Jeffrey Liakos — February 12, 2018 @ 10:43 AM

  25. Phylis Feiner Johnson, I hope that I am not being too much of a pest with my curiosities.


    Comment by Jeffrey Liakos — February 13, 2018 @ 3:24 PM

  26. Word has gotten out to only use GNC vitamins


    Comment by Rita McDonald — February 13, 2018 @ 6:11 PM

  27. Has anyone used accupuncture? My daughter was recently diagnosed and after a failed trial of zonisamide (many cognitive issues) she is now on generic keppra. We have been told she has a very busy brain, and having breakthrough seizures at 750mg morning and night. Lots of restless legs at night. Thoughts or experiences?


    Comment by Cindy — March 11, 2018 @ 10:28 PM

    • I haven’t tried acupuncture myself but I know that it involves inserting very fine pins or needles into specific points on a person’s body to stimulate energy pathways and natural healing processes.

      The needles may be left inserted for a few seconds, but are more commonly left in place for 30-40 minutes.

      Although there has been no evidence that acupuncture can directly improve a person’s epilepsy, it has been found to be effective in reducing stress and anxiety, which may then result in less seizures for some people with epilepsy.

      It can also improve well-being and underlying health, and help with headaches or fatigue associated with seizures.

      Acupuncture is thought to work on the limbic centre of the brain, the area that is involved in moods and emotions and often implicated in epilepsy.

      While therapists do not suggest they can cure epilepsy, they may in the long-term be able to reduce levels of stress and anxiety, which in itself will reduce the risk of seizures.


      Comment by Phylis Feiner Johnson — March 12, 2018 @ 9:44 AM

  28. Phylis Feiner Johnson, you told me that you had not used any of the herbs mentioned in this post. In your personal opinion, assuming that there is more benefit than harm in the use of the herbs specified above, what is a better way to take them in your opinion-in tea or capsule form?


    Comment by Jeffrey Liakos — March 19, 2018 @ 8:43 PM

    • Jeffrey, I do take some of the herbs as mentioned above.

      Chamomile Tea, Coconut water, Garlic (capsule form), Omega-3 Fatty Acids (food and capsule form) and Sesame Oil.


      Comment by Phylis Feiner Johnson — March 20, 2018 @ 11:22 AM

  29. Phylis Feiner Johnson, some things like coconut oil are used in cooking, so it is natural that benefits can be found from that. I know that garlic is good for people with Epilepsy, however, since it is also a blood thinner, care should be taken with how much you use and how often. In your personal opinion, who is more reliable when it comes to possible natural treatments for Epilepsy-herbalists or Neurologists? Neurologists deal with issues related to the brain, however, I am of the belief that some Medical Doctors are too quick to prescribe medication and not analyze the option of adding things that will provide greater benefit. As far as what you mentioned, I will admit to probably being too hasty with my comment. You said that you had not used any of the herbs that I mentioned. Whoops.


    Comment by Jeffrey Liakos — March 22, 2018 @ 6:55 PM

    • Herbalists are the most reliable, I’d say. Most neuros don’t have a clue.


      Comment by Phylis Feiner Johnson — March 22, 2018 @ 7:34 PM

      • Herbalists being the most reliable in this regard-I would not be surprised if this is true. In your opinion, how would it be better to take these herbs-in capsule or tea form?


        Comment by Jeffrey Liakos — March 30, 2018 @ 10:59 AM

      • It depends upon the herbs mentioned above.

        Some are available in tea form, some in capsules and some as essential oils.

        For example: Chamomile Tea

        Coconut water

        Epsom Salt

        Essential Oils



        Sesame Oil


        Comment by Phylis Feiner Johnson — March 30, 2018 @ 11:11 AM


    I have seizures and i have been waking up in the emergency room every 2 to 3 months for the last 10 years. I was started on Levetiracetam (Keppra) after about 3 seizures, 250mg didn’t work so it was increased to 500mg and I started to seriously plan my suicide, that increased the moody irritability to the point where if something came up with somebody I”d go off on them with intentions to cause harm, after I got out of the back seat of my sisters car in heavy traffic to explain to the driver behind us we weren’t going anywhere either but we could discuss this further after he got out of his car they started me on lamotrigine and vimpat and took me off keppra. My gran mals are always when I’m sleeping at about 5 am. With the change in medicine I started waking up during the seizure unable to breathe. My neurologist told me that shows the medication is starting to work and I am getting closer to ending my seizures. When the paramedics show up it’s a wrestling match to get me on the gurney and I have lost my appetite since this has all unraveled. Nothing seems to be helping. I feel like my doctors don’t even know what to do or say to me anymore. Feeling hopeless. I heard about cannabis CBD oil and I decided to try it. I bought the cannabis oil from Medicinal Marijuana Resources by contacting them through their email info@medicinalmarijuanaresources.com and I started using the cannabis oil as prescribed and within few weeks of using the cannabis CBD oil, there was a lot of good changes and I felt better. I used the cannabis oil to cure my seizures completely. I am healthy and I do not suffer from seizures. Seizures patients out there should try cannabis CBD oil and you will see the result.


    Comment by Katty Larry — March 30, 2018 @ 7:42 AM

    • Katy, what a wonderful testimony of hope and success!

      Thanks ever so much for sharing.

      I’m sure many can benefit from your experiences.


      Comment by Phylis Feiner Johnson — March 30, 2018 @ 10:47 AM

  31. Phylis Feiner Johnson, if herbs can help, why do many medical practitioners seem to object to them?


    Comment by Jeffrey Liakos — March 30, 2018 @ 11:41 AM

  32. Phylis Feiner Johnson, if you were a medical doctor who specialized in neurology and someone asked you questions about medicinal herbs, how would you handle that? Do research and then give the patients feedback or just advise them to be mindful of potential side-effects?


    Comment by Jeffrey Liakos — March 30, 2018 @ 3:38 PM

    • If I was a doctor?

      I would probably poo-poo natural herbs and optimistically, if I were the least bit receptive, I would advise my patients to beware of potential side-effects.


      Comment by Phylis Feiner Johnson — March 30, 2018 @ 3:50 PM

  33. Phylis Feiner Johnson, I would do the opposite personally. Quite honestly, if I was a Medical Doctor, I would prefer that my patients ask me questions and bring me whatever information they found. Then I would offer them my thoughts. Another thing I would do is tell them to be mindful of any side-effects. Assuming that there were no negative interactions between the herbal supplements they were using and the prescribed medication I suggested, I would encourage them to use said herbs, wisely, of course, however, I would not be inclined to frown upon the use of medicinal herbs.


    Comment by Jeffrey Liakos — March 30, 2018 @ 4:02 PM

    • Jeffrey, I’d consider you as a candidate for my doctor any time! 🙂


      Comment by Phylis Feiner Johnson — March 30, 2018 @ 4:05 PM

      • Phylis Feiner Johnson, medication can be a real life saver. I won’t dispute that. However, it seems that in some cased Medical Doctors who specialize solely in Western medicine have a short-sighted perspective in this regard. The other thing I would do personally as far as herbs go is encourage their use as long as the patients were made aware of the effects is do regular blood tests and other check ups.


        Comment by Jeffrey Liakos — March 30, 2018 @ 4:14 PM

  34. I agree wholeheartedly!!!


    Comment by Phylis Feiner Johnson — March 30, 2018 @ 5:04 PM

  35. Phylis Feiner Johnson, Western medicine is well-intentioned. However, it seems to be short-sighted in many areas. If use of medicinal herbs can help reduce potential damage to the liver as a result of long term use of some medications, how is that a bad thing?


    Comment by Jeffrey Liakos — March 30, 2018 @ 5:15 PM

    • It isn’t. (In my humble opinion.)

      That’s why I wrote the article.


      Comment by Phylis Feiner Johnson — March 30, 2018 @ 5:26 PM

      • Hello everyone. I’m new to this group. A close relative 12 years old had a brief seizure on 14 June 2019. It’s important to mention that before that he started a adhd medication which i believed contributed by tiggering it. He went for a eeg on 9 July 2019 and they confirmed epilepsy and he was put on epilim cr 400 mg twice a day. I have been doing some research on some alternatives or on how to reduce the side effects of the tablets. Now i need some advice for the next check up what type of blood test to request from the doctor.


        Comment by Linda — August 17, 2019 @ 5:01 AM

      • A standard blood test will determine the levels of the meds in his blood.

        He might want to consider an epilepsy diary to chart his daily routine and keep track of his seizures. https://www.seizuretracker.com/ (He also may find a link between the ADHD medicine and his seizures.)

        Also, when he goes to the doctor he should be thoroughly prepared.

        Secrets to Better Care from Your Doctor… https://epilepsytalk.com/2018/08/15/secrets-to-better-care-from-your-doctor/

        We have to be our own advocates, so it’s important that he be vigilant in his care.


        Comment by Phylis Feiner Johnson — August 17, 2019 @ 8:53 AM

  36. Herbal remedies are not always the best. I get that, however, what is the harm in using them?


    Comment by Jeffrey Liakos — March 30, 2018 @ 9:25 PM

  37. Neither do I. Many Doctors who seem to be skeptical of the use of medicinal herbs seem to believe that prescribing a specific medication is the only viable solution. Is it really?


    Comment by Jeffrey Liakos — March 31, 2018 @ 10:15 AM

    • Jeffrey, we’re on the same page there!


      Comment by Phylis Feiner Johnson — March 31, 2018 @ 10:55 AM

      • Phylis Feiner Johnson, if herbal remedies are less damaging to the liver than prescription medications, why do these Medical Doctors whose speciality is Western medicine dismiss the potential benefits? Where is the logic in that?


        Comment by Jeffrey Liakos — March 31, 2018 @ 11:19 AM

      • You and I both know, there is no “logic” in that!


        Comment by Phylis Feiner Johnson — March 31, 2018 @ 1:16 PM

      • That is good. I am into Natural Remedies and Herbs. Rita McDonald


        Comment by Rita McDonald — April 1, 2018 @ 12:22 AM

      • Well you seem to be doing a great job with them! 🙂


        Comment by Phylis Feiner Johnson — April 1, 2018 @ 9:01 AM

      • Rita McDonald, have you ever used medicinal herbs?


        Comment by Jeffrey Liakos — April 1, 2018 @ 9:17 AM

  38. Most of childhood was on Dilantin and Phenobarbital, until later in life I took Depakote ER 500 mg for over 20 yrs. then had kidney stone, multiple cysts and enlarged liver. I took lemon 🍋 and lime juice and mixed them to Keep kidney stones from forming and took lemon and water everyday. I started to take stone away and break away. For liver, I take 1,000 mg of Milk Thistle and NAC to help liver. I take Curcumin with black pepper which is also good for the 🧠 brain. Turmeric/Curcumin will get rid of cysts and tumors in your body. I REFUSED to take any more DEPAKOTE and went back to 32mg of the old 1914 Phenobarbital. They use this for 👶 babies and then they can use it for me too. I have the CBD Marijuana But was told it may cause seizures.


    Comment by Rita McDonald — March 31, 2018 @ 11:03 AM

    • Rita McDonald, was Dilantin very effective for you?


      Comment by Jeffrey Liakos — March 31, 2018 @ 11:09 AM

    • Thanks for the feedback!

      Glad your kidneys and liver are recovering.

      Many people stay with the tried and true Phenobarbital. (If it ain’t broke, don’t fix it.)


      Comment by Phylis Feiner Johnson — March 31, 2018 @ 1:14 PM

  39. Phylis Feiner Johnson, any person who says that use of herbs is not the way to go, unless they provide legitimate proof to validate what they say, is being short-sighted in some regards. More often than not, I would say that people should heed the advice of their Doctor, however, Doctors do not get everything right. Now, to be fair, they are not 100% wrong either.


    Comment by Jeffrey Liakos — March 31, 2018 @ 6:14 PM

  40. There are two sides to every question or opinion.

    And sometimes it’s shady between wrong and right.


    Comment by Phylis Feiner Johnson — April 1, 2018 @ 9:05 AM

    • Phylis Feiner Johnson, I know that Medical Doctors are far from perfect. No question about that. However, as I said, if use of some natural treatments can reduce potential damage to the liver, as a result of long term use of anti-convulsant medications, I fail to see how that is a bad thing.


      Comment by Jeffrey Liakos — April 1, 2018 @ 7:29 PM

  41. Phylis Feiner Johnson, some medications may not cause long term damage to the liver. Having said that, I am of the belief that we can become too dependent on these medications.


    Comment by Jeffrey Liakos — April 7, 2018 @ 4:59 PM

    • I’m afraid you’re correct. 😦


      Comment by Phylis Feiner Johnson — April 7, 2018 @ 5:49 PM

      • Phylis Feiner Johnson, as I see it, use of medicinal herbs should not be viewed as a bad thing. There could be the potential for a possible adverse reaction between herbs and medications in some areas. However, if potential damage to the liver is reduced as a result of adding some herbal supplements, that would seem to me to be more of a benefit than it is a detriment. Now, if I was a Medical Doctor, I would be willing to look into any information, either of my own volition or if any patients sought my opinion on the matter. You told me that you were blessed by not getting the migraine headaches. Aside from your post where you addressed that matter, would it surprise you personally if more people than not who have Epilepsy experienced those or if fewer people with Epilepsy had to endure the pain of them?


        Comment by Jeffrey Liakos — April 7, 2018 @ 9:06 PM

      • Jeffrey, you might be interested in this article (if you haven’t already read it):

        Epilepsy & Migraines — Kissing Cousins



        Comment by Phylis Feiner Johnson — April 7, 2018 @ 10:13 PM

  42. Phylis Feiner Johnson, I have seen that particular link. Would it surprise you personally if more people or fewer reported the experience of the post-ictal migraine headaches? If yes, why? If not, why not? The skull-splitting pain is unbearable.


    Comment by Jeffrey Liakos — April 8, 2018 @ 11:58 AM

    • I think many people don’t connect the two.


      Comment by Phylis Feiner Johnson — April 8, 2018 @ 1:14 PM

      • Phylis Feiner Johnson, that is admittedly surprising to me. I had initially hoped that the headaches would just be an inconvenience when I had them. Not cause me to be in a significant amount of pain and not worthy of hospitalization.


        Comment by Jeffrey Liakos — April 8, 2018 @ 6:02 PM

      • I’m so very sorry, Jeffrey.


        Comment by Phylis Feiner Johnson — April 9, 2018 @ 10:24 AM

      • Phylis Feiner Johnson, if you don’t mind my asking, what is the worst Seizure you remember experiencing? Have you ever gone into what they call a Status Epileptic state?


        Comment by Jeffrey Liakos — April 9, 2018 @ 12:11 PM

      • I went into a coma and was on life support after having two heart attacks.


        Comment by Phylis Feiner Johnson — April 9, 2018 @ 2:13 PM

      • That is a serious ouch.


        Comment by Jeffrey Liakos — April 9, 2018 @ 3:53 PM

      • Yup. I almost didn’t make it.


        Comment by Phylis Feiner Johnson — April 9, 2018 @ 5:09 PM

      • Phylis Feiner Johnson, I don’t recall going into a coma when I had my situation in 2015. However, I was told that it took 6 medications to bring me out of my situation.


        Comment by Jeffrey Liakos — April 9, 2018 @ 6:19 PM

  43. Ugh. 😦


    Comment by Phylis Feiner Johnson — April 9, 2018 @ 6:41 PM

  44. Phylis Feiner Johnson, it was one thing after another for me in 2015, shunt failure, which was not noticeable immediately, a broken foot, brain surgery and then 2 back to back grand mal seizures, which led me to be in Status Epilepticus.


    Comment by Jeffrey Liakos — April 19, 2018 @ 6:52 PM

    • Oh Jeffrey, I’m so very sorry. 😦


      Comment by Phylis Feiner Johnson — April 19, 2018 @ 8:29 PM

      • Well, fortunately, I am here and able to tell my story. If you hear of similar stories, try not to be too surprised.


        Comment by Jeffrey Liakos — April 19, 2018 @ 11:11 PM

      • And we’re all so glad you’re here!


        Comment by Phylis Feiner Johnson — April 20, 2018 @ 8:33 AM

      • Phylis Feiner Johnson, at the time of the various events, nothing about it was funny. However, I can look back and think about how absurd it all was, the pile on of one thing after another.


        Comment by Jeffrey Liakos — April 21, 2018 @ 4:54 PM

      • Nothing is funny. Especially not a pile of miseries.


        Comment by Phylis Feiner Johnson — April 21, 2018 @ 5:30 PM

  45. According to Ayurveda Basil is one of the herbs that treat epilepsy .. how come you’v listed it first to avoid?


    Comment by Maria Koller — April 23, 2018 @ 9:13 AM

  46. P.S and your give a dead link as a source “www.epilepy.com” – EPILEPY… ?!


    Comment by Maria — April 23, 2018 @ 9:19 AM

  47. We use coconut and coconut oil other oils such as castor oil, palm oil and other food supplements according to Season
    Madame or


    Comment by Syed yusuf — April 25, 2018 @ 10:19 AM

  48. Hi, i want to have medecine to cure defitively my sister suffering from epilepsy. She has been taking modern medecines without success.


    Comment by Michael — May 1, 2018 @ 7:46 AM

  49. Michael, does your sister suffer from the post-ictal migraine headaches that affect some people? Phylis Feiner Johnson, I know that some people who have Epilepsy may reap greater benefit from medicinal herbs than medication alone, however, despite the fact that you said that you would probably be dismissive about medicinal herbs if you were a Doctor, would you be willing to re-evaluate your opinion if any patients brought you information that they studied relating to any herbs that piqued their curiosity?


    Comment by Jeffrey Liakos — May 6, 2018 @ 9:58 AM

    • Doctors are slow to change their minds and would consider such evidence as anecdotal without the accepted protocol of double-blind testing in trials. 😦


      Comment by Phylis Feiner Johnson — May 6, 2018 @ 10:38 AM

  50. Phylis Feiner Johnson, I shall concede the fact that medicinal herbs are probably not the best thing to use for things such as Epilepsy or any other medical condition. Despite that, if they can reduce the potential damage to the liver associated with long term medication use, to not consider the possibility of any added benefit makes absolutely no sense to me. As I had mentioned in an earlier comment, if I was a Medical Doctor whose speciality was Neurology, I would probably be open to the use of medicinal herbs. Maybe this is not entirely fair or accurate, however, it seems that practitioners of Western medicine only resort to prescribing medication for these conditions, as well as other conditions, without the possible consideration to the effects on the liver or other potential risks. Some people can argue with validity that without these medications that it could be fatal for someone who is affected by Epilepsy not to have them. At one point, I was free of seizures and medication for 10 years. Then I had one of those and am back on medication. I also recall mentioning to you what had happened to me in 2015. That was a year of hell for me. I hope that I can go the rest of my life without another event like that.


    Comment by Jeffrey Liakos — May 21, 2018 @ 12:54 PM

  51. I hope so too.

    Jeffrey, have you ever considered seeing a nutritionist?

    You might enjoy the experience…and it may benefit you.


    Comment by Phylis Feiner Johnson — May 21, 2018 @ 4:11 PM

    • Phylis Feiner Johnson, this is something that I have no direct recollection of doing. Despite the differences in names and specialities, do nutritionists and herbalists have any similar mode of operation in what they do? I am happy to know that you never suffer the excruciating pain of the postictal migraine headaches. Despite the fact that you have never suffered from those yourself, do you know anybody personally who has?

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      Comment by Jeffrey Liakos — May 23, 2018 @ 2:05 PM

      • I personally don’t know anyone who has suffered from your type of postictal migraine.

        I think nutritionists concern themselves with foods and supplements that go into your body, while herbalists are concerned with just that.

        Take a look at The American Herbalist Guild. https://www.americanherbalistsguild.com/

        It looks fascinating. From finding a certified herbalist, a mentor, news articles, herbal medicine fundamentals — to the American Herbalist Store. (Be careful!)

        Liked by 1 person

        Comment by Phylis Feiner Johnson — May 23, 2018 @ 2:31 PM

  52. Phylis Feiner Johnson, one herbal remedy you mentioned is garlic. Despite its being reported as a blood thinner, in your opinion, would the benefits of its consumption outweigh the potential risks? For some people, blood thinners are not the best thing to have, if it is not specifically prescribed by a Medical Doctor. Having said that, if consumed wisely and sparingly, I think it is safe to say that garlic has great benefits.


    Comment by Jeffrey Liakos — May 24, 2018 @ 3:41 PM

  53. I agree.


    Comment by Phylis Feiner Johnson — May 24, 2018 @ 3:54 PM

  54. Phylis Feiner Johnson, despite the smell of garlic, I will admit that it does taste good. In this post you address the use of essential oils. I will look these up in further detail, however, maybe you can help me to understand the benefits of those fore people with Epilepsy?


    Comment by Jeffrey Liakos — May 26, 2018 @ 3:00 PM

    • Pure essential oils are oils that are extracted from plants.

      Some oils have a relaxing effect on the body and the brain, for example lavender.

      Some oils have a stimulating effect on the body and brain, for example bergamot.

      Oils can be diluted in a ‘base’ oil (a plain oil such as a vegetable or nut oil) and used for massage, or they can be diluted and used in a burner to produce an aroma that is inhaled.

      When essential oils are massaged into the skin, the tiny molecules of oil pass through the skin and into the tissues and bloodstream.

      Once in the bloodstream they travel to the brain where they have an effect.

      When essential oils are inhaled they go straight to the brain via the lungs.

      Many essential oils are freely available to buy, but this does not necessarily mean that they are all safe to use.

      Ask your doctor, pharmacist or qualified aromatherapist before you use essential oils bought over the counter or on the internet.

      Are any essential oils not recommended for use in epilepsy?

      Rosemary, fennel, sage, eucalyptus, hyssop, camphor and spike lavender are not recommended as essential oils if you have epilepsy.

      This is because these essential oils may trigger seizures in some people with epilepsy.



      Comment by Phylis Feiner Johnson — May 26, 2018 @ 5:48 PM

  55. Phylis Feiner Johnson, when I asked you for an explanation regarding the use of essential oils to treat Epilepsy, I put fore, not for. Can you edit out the e letter then delete this comment so I can make a fresh one, please?


    Comment by Jeffrey Liakos — May 27, 2018 @ 8:48 AM

  56. Great article my is on cbd what would work well with the cbd


    Comment by Teena Arsenault — June 2, 2018 @ 7:54 PM

  57. Phylis Feiner Johnson, you said that you would pooh-pooh natural herbs if you were a doctor. What is the reason for this position? Due to a lack of scientific research to validate the benefits of their use?


    Comment by Jeffrey Liakos — June 3, 2018 @ 7:44 PM

  58. Phylis Feiner Johnson, one legitimate concern that should be addressed is potential damage to the liver as a result of the long-term use of anti-convulsant drugs. It is not in dispute that medication can be a real life-saver, however, what about the issue of how Epilepsy and the medications used to treat it can impact quality of life? In my opinion, patients should ask their M.D.s how certain medications can affect quality of life, if natural remedies would be better in some ways. Heck, if I was a Medical Doctor, I would not withhold medication from a patient that really needed it, however, I would advocate natural remedies whenever and wherever possible.


    Comment by Jeffrey Liakos — June 6, 2018 @ 12:02 PM

  59. Phylis Feiner Johnson, in this post you mention the use of essential oils. Would it surprise you personally if there was more benefit from those in conjunction with regular medication than just medication alone? Would you be of the opinion that essential oils and the smell of them could ward of an impending seizure? Also, even with some reported interactions between these herbs and some anti-convulsant drugs, what if despite the reported interaction between one herb and the medication prescribed did not actually take place? Would it be an anomalous thing or would the person taking both just not be too sensitive to the reported effects?


    Comment by Jeffrey Liakos — June 10, 2018 @ 2:10 PM

    • As I said previously, I don’t think it’s a case of black and white — that one thing can replace another.

      I think, at best, you would consider essential oils to be complementary medicine to accompany standard protocols, but not replace them.


      Comment by Phylis Feiner Johnson — June 10, 2018 @ 4:18 PM

  60. Phylis Feiner Johnson, I have read up on some of the herbal remedies that are mentioned in this post. Some information that I came across has said that there would be an interaction between the herbal remedy and the prescribed medication. From your way of thinking, if a person was taking an herbal supplement in conjunction with their medication but had not experienced a reported interaction when taking both at the same time, what would that mean-that the person taking both was just not adversely affected by the combination or that any reported side-effects are based on faulty data?


    Comment by Jeffrey Liakos — June 17, 2018 @ 3:41 PM

    • I would state the obvious. If a person on AEDs has no adverse reaction to taking herbs than the interaction is safe and sound.


      Comment by Phylis Feiner Johnson — June 17, 2018 @ 3:48 PM

  61. Phylis Feiner Johnson, as a follow up, would it be reasonable to believe that just because there may be no adverse interaction between an herbal supplement and certain Epilepsy medications, despite reports otherwise that the reported information is faulty? Or does that just mean that a person who is using them is able to tolerate the combination?


    Comment by Jeffrey Liakos — June 26, 2018 @ 8:28 PM

  62. Phylis Feiner Johnson, another thing I use in my diet is turmeric. Did you know that that is a good part of a diet for people with Epilepsy? I have learned quite a bit about that!

    Liked by 1 person

    Comment by Jeffrey Liakos — July 6, 2018 @ 7:11 PM

  63. Yes, I just recently found out about from turmeric from another member.

    I think you’ll find it mentioned somewhere in this thread.


    Comment by Phylis Feiner Johnson — July 6, 2018 @ 10:53 PM

  64. What a great artical and it contines to grow and we are all benifiting, fermented product got some mention earlier, has any one got any personal experience from adding Kumbucha to there diet ??.


    Comment by Donald Nairn — July 7, 2018 @ 2:33 AM

    • No, I haven’t but it sounds cool, Donald. Thanks for the tip.

      For those, like me, who aren’t familiar with it: Kombucha has the same health benefits as tea, but it’s also rich in beneficial probiotics, which is always an added bonus.

      It also contains antioxidants, which can kill harmful bacteria and may help fight several diseases.

      For more Kombucha benefits and how to make this gut-friendly beverage, click on:



      Comment by Phylis Feiner Johnson — July 7, 2018 @ 9:28 AM

  65. Phylis Feiner Johnson, in your personal opinion, how long would someone have to utilize medicinal herbs for them to be effective? I am of the belief that if they can reduce dependency on medication, the better off we are.


    Comment by Jeffrey Liakos — July 7, 2018 @ 10:05 AM

  66. We are in agreement on that.


    Comment by Jeffrey Liakos — July 7, 2018 @ 1:45 PM

  67. Love your info! Minor seizures in a Smokey community using violet tree oil! it was off the island near the state of Washington. Cooking w/ Basil love reading your information.


    Comment by red2robi — September 3, 2018 @ 12:04 PM

  68. Phylis Feiner Johnson, you told me that your birthday would be #65. I hope that you are blessed with many more birthdays to come.


    Comment by Jeffrey Liakos — September 3, 2018 @ 7:40 PM

    • I’m counting on it! 🙂


      Comment by Phylis Feiner Johnson — September 3, 2018 @ 7:47 PM

      • Phylis Feiner Johnson, I also am very much enjoying Epilepsy Talk. Even though some people may not like discussing the issue of Epilepsy, I am glad that forums exist where this is talked about.


        Comment by Jeffrey Liakos — September 3, 2018 @ 7:56 PM

      • And I LOVE my Epilepsy Talk family.

        You’re all the reason I get up in the morning.



        Comment by Phylis Feiner Johnson — September 3, 2018 @ 10:51 PM

      • We are having the same Birthday! You look great!


        Comment by Toni Robison — September 3, 2018 @ 10:27 PM

      • Well thank you. When is your birthday? I’m June 9, 1953.

        And Medicare hasn’t helped my insurance premiums at all!


        Comment by Phylis Feiner Johnson — September 3, 2018 @ 10:49 PM

  69. Phylis Feiner Johnson, at the risk of sounding overly political, what are your thoughts regarding the politicians who exempted themselves from Obamacare and screwed us over in the process? I find it to be absurd personally.


    Comment by Jeffrey Liakos — September 5, 2018 @ 6:38 PM

    • It’s sick, selfish and a few other things that I won’t put into print.


      Comment by Phylis Feiner Johnson — September 5, 2018 @ 9:18 PM

      • Phylis Feiner Johnson, if you are worried that what you will say might offend me, this is not the case. Despite my disagreements with him on some things, I had favored Rick Santorum in the 2012 Presidential election. If his campaign survived to the general election, I would have voted for him then.


        Comment by Jeffrey Liakos — September 6, 2018 @ 9:44 PM

  70. found the blog by accident – really horrified to see you spreading pseudo science and misinformation. I understand our very human need to embrace hope – and I in no way imply that you are doing any more than “trying to help”. In truth, the sources you choose to cite rely on magical thinking &/or are quacks. The results can be deadly. Epilepsy is a real condition – these “remedies” have been studied and discredited. Unfortunately for all of us, they do not work. In fact, getting poisoned from some of the items you list is a very real danger.


    Comment by Help — September 21, 2018 @ 12:17 PM

  71. Phylis Feiner Johnson, if the possibility of the use of medicinal herbs were to be addressed at a medical appointment, how should it be handled-bring it up directly with the doctor or soliciting the opinions of an herbalist and then the opinion of your doctor? I would welcome your thoughts.


    Comment by Jeffrey Liakos — October 29, 2018 @ 11:19 AM

    • I would choose the herbalist first and then the skeptical doctor.

      You might even have some ammunition to take with you from the herbalist! 🙂


      Comment by Phylis Feiner Johnson — October 29, 2018 @ 2:52 PM

  72. How much is too much of a good thing ? I found that out I believe back in NOV, when I knew I took 10 drops of a BACOPA extract herb & 5 hours later I lived through a GRAND MAL seizure, yet when just a few days earlier I had only 5 drops of the same BACOPA herb with no seizure from that then. So I know these herbs are powerful & active as my herbalist had warned me a few days ago that you must be aware how much you are taking of any herb, & essential oils, because they both are extremely powerful IF they are of the pure form of that herb or oil you are using. The AED’s according to what my herbalist says are all made by the corporate chemical industry who claim they use pure things in their drugs, so if that is true,, Why are there METALS like ALUMINUM LAKE,, & other toxic chemicals like FOOD DYES, ASPARTAME’s & MSG’s in what drugs they all make for us,, but any herb or essential oils are bad ?
    Ever notice there is NEVER TOO MUCH TO TAKE, of any bad drugs we have to choose from ? I do not want to take more of anything that WILL stop seizures, & if taking more than I need will cause a seizure, then that needs to be known what is too much to take. BACOPA I know is or can be dangerous IF you take too much where your brain can not stay calm & relaxed from taking more BACOPA than needed. FRANKINCENSE oil needs to be updated about HOW it is best used to stop or prevent seizures, either by inhaling the aroma of it or by rubbing a drop or 2 at the end of the brain stem above the neck. You can also add a drop in water when using a water humidifier or vaporizer to add a frankincense aroma in the air at home.


    Comment by CD — December 29, 2018 @ 10:50 AM

  73. Thanks for the personal story about Bacopa and added info about Frankincence!


    Comment by Phylis Feiner Johnson — December 29, 2018 @ 11:03 AM

  74. I have found lavender oil to be very helpful, especially at night. Peppermint oil has been helpful for keeping me awake and for helping with the nausea associated with the medications.


    Comment by megambon2164 — August 17, 2019 @ 9:51 AM

  75. Hi, Phyllis,

    If Wintergreen should be avoided, what about peppermint?


    Comment by Martha — November 2, 2019 @ 9:05 PM

    • Hi Martha,

      From what I just researched, peppermint oil is neurotoxic in HIGH doses.


      “Peppermint, acetaminophen, and their combination, significantly reduced headache intensity as compared with placebo; the combination resulted in the greatest reduction in pain and headache-related disability.”


      Nowhere did it say that peppermint was either good or bad for seizures. (???)

      Sorry I couldn’t come up with anything more conclusive. 😦


      Comment by Phylis Feiner Johnson — November 2, 2019 @ 11:15 PM

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